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And Now, And Here 作者:奥修 印度)

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Chapter 9

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Perhaps it may not have occurred to you why women look more beautiful than men, why there is such roundness, such shapeliness in women.

That man who has not given birth to his children with an utterly prayerful and reverent heart is a criminal -- and he will remain a criminal before all generations.

He accepts someones superiority only when compelled to, otherwise never at all.

From my side I am fully prepared.

Twenty-five hundred years ago ten or fifteen people of such precious quality happened that, during the span of a hundred years, mans consciousness touched the heavens.

Slowly, she began to dig into the deeper levels of her memory, and the day she entered her past life for the first time, she came running to me.

If we do not produce men of such caliber in the next fifty years, the human race is about to enter a very dark age.

On this depends how superior, how great the soul is which is attracted towards them, how great the divine consciousness is which makes that body its place of residence.

Gandhis experiment was to raise the moral character of each individual.

A very small number of people, some special type, a few individuals of a totally different kind, reach through the path of renunciation.

Is it possible, with the rising of one mans soul, for mankinds entire spirit to be uplifted? It is not only possible, it is the only thing possible.

What I said yesterday is not contradictory, is not paradoxical.

She was a professor in a college, intelligent, wise and courageous.

All the paint and color has washed off; not a bit is left anywhere.

If you read the Vedic rishis, the sages, it doesnt seem as if they are talking about some imaginary gods.

A marriage devoid of love does not create a spiritual bond -- a bond which is only possible with the presence of love.

But these are not the reasons, normally advocated by the politicians, why religion has opposed alcohol.

I can take them as far as I would like them to go, and as far as they are willing to go.

In the present day, the number of ghosts and evil spirits has greatly decreased and the number of gods has increased, because the opportunity for the birth of godlike people has diminished whereas the opportunity for the birth of evil souls has increased rapidly.

We can certainly know about our past lives, but at present you know nothing even about this life.

Based on thousands of experiences, I have found that the man who drinks is in many ways far better than the one who does not.

Obviously, when people like Rama, Buddha and Christ cease to be recognized, how will it be possible to believe they ever existed before?

He will see his foolishness.

There are ways of doing it; there is a methodology for it.

Just look at man and you have seen them!

You will cry out, "But I have seen it for fifteen days, how much longer can I see it?" And the police are on your back, forcing you to see the movie! However, if you are drugged after you have watched the movie and you consequently forget you ever saw it, the next day you can be seen purchasing a ticket for the same movie and enjoying it greatly.

The same flower could have blossomed in me too.

Our experience is limited to the gross, to the physical body.

It shows, symbolically, that life is a repetitive boredom, a revolving wheel.

Today, man has fallen so low that if we remain concerned with changing every individual, it will never happen.

The degree of pity and compassion I have come across in those who drink, I have not seen in the non-drinkers.

Its an unending process.

It is not necessarily so that, following a mans death, his soul may soon find the opportunity to take birth.

There is nothing above worth seeing today.

I could also have been a Buddha, a Mahavira, a Krishna, a Christ.

You would be able to point out such minor details -- like the shoe you were wearing was hurting your foot.

Once again everything is the same; everything has happened many times before.

She said, "No.

When the two types of bodies -- the gross and the subtle -- come in contact with this element of the soul, both become active.

We are all witness to it.

The ordinary man has the experience of the physical body, the ordinary yogi has the experience of the subtle body, the enlightened yogi has the experience of the divine.

There is a wonderful story in the life of Ramakrishna.

On the contrary, the greater possibility is that anyone attempting to bring about such a change might himself become like those he wants to change.

But there are other, more profound inner differences as well.

In Greece, Socrates, Plato, Aristotleand Plotinus were born.

Whatever opportunities are being created are for the birth of inferior souls.

In this respect, a friend has asked:

Ordinary souls, which are neither very superior nor very inferior, find new bodies within thirteen days from the death of the body; however, very inferior souls are stopped from taking birth because it is very difficult to find a suitable opportunity, a womb that low in quality.

At the time of death the gross body dies.

We have never had the experience of seeing our own body separate from us.

Those who had gone out to serve others, to reform others, in no time you find that people have begun to reform them.

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Now the whole thing is beyond endurance.

Man can, of course, know about his past lives, because once something is imprinted in the form of a memory on our minds, it is never destroyed.

Such a small occurrence brings such an enormous difference, although because of it the woman could become beautiful but she could not grow.

Following my instructions exactly, she went into deep meditation.

Potentially, the seed contains within itself what the color of your eyes will be, how long your hands will be, whether youll have a healthy body or a sick body, whether youll be white or black, whether or not youll have curly hair.

So there is no need to worry much about how to enter another body; rather, be concerned about how you have entered this very body of yours.

The subtle body is the causal body; it is this body that takes on the new physical body.

Why isnt the same seen in men? It may not have occurred to you why there is a music, an inner dance apparent in the being of a woman, and which is not seen in man.

Woman has not developed civilizations because her personality is complete; there is no chromosome lacking.

But the first cell of a male child consists of only forty-seven chromosomes -- twenty-four on one side and twenty-three on the other.

In the present world there is nothing to see above, but there is much to see below.

Recalling the memories of one month can drive you crazy, let alone those of past lives.

I sold my body.

All bodies are external.

I can assure the friend who has asked the question that he can be taken into past life memories if he so desires.

He was holding on with effort to just a little bit of desire.

And one who is trying to forget himself can never become acquainted with the soul.

Ramakrishna said, "Dont cry.

He doesnt realize, however, how many times he has fallen in love before, how many women he has chased before.

The reason is so small you cant even imagine that the enormous difference between man and woman is based on something so tiny.

A hundred years from now children will say, "They played Ramleela and people got the wrong impression that Rama had lived at some time in the past.

The whole marital system of the human race is ugly and perverted.

One need not see them, however.

Gandhis experiment seemed successful, but it turned out to be a total failure.

They will say, "There are an infinite number of souls.

A harmony, a rapport, a music necessary to give birth to a great soul is not created between the man and the woman.

I said, "It is possible; however, you must realize the consequences -- because perhaps by knowing your past lives you may become terribly worried and upset.

A woman is fully balanced.

The whole arrangement of nature is such that it only permits as many memories as your mind can bear.

The strange thing is that even though it is simple and easy to reach through the householders path, no attention has yet been paid to it.

Once the householders life was condemned, we stopped thinking in that direction altogether.

The whole thing will have gone beyond all limits.

It always remains in our deep unconscious levels.

In the state of hypnosis your deeply embedded memories can be brought out.

Feeling embarrassed, Sharada would politely chide him, "What are you doing? What must people think -- dropping the talk on Brahman so suddenly and starting to talk about food!" Ramakrishna would laugh and remain silent.

This body, formed of all these subtle things, along with the soul, once again proceeds on a journey, and again enters a gross body for a new birth.

Obviously, it is to forget all this, to forget his days, that a man drinks, watches movies, plays cards, gambles.

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You can see for yourselves that those who set out to serve the masses turn out, in a few days, to be their deceivers.

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You would even be able to say that the man who brought you tea stank with perspiration.

In the West, in fact, one man has written a book in which he says a man like Christ never existed.

and this needs careful consideration: Ordinarily, people think an alcoholic is a bad person.

With the new body, a new play starts once again -- the same act, the same story.

One lady used to experiment under my guidance.

Thats why alcohol and samadhi became two opposing things.

There is no other way for one to feel aversion towards the kind of life he now leads.

They were the first on earth to make it clear to seekers that until they had entered their past lives, they would not be able to know what the soul is.

The electricity is one, that energy is one, but it is manifesting through different bulbs.

She began the experiment.

" But if you are compelled, threatened -- "If you dont see the movie the police will take you away, the police will be after you" -- and like this you are forced to see the same movie for fifteen days, on the sixteenth day you will surely attempt suicide.

The sole reason human consciousness has been declining daily is because married couples are not creating suitable opportunities for superior souls to take birth.

One is the gross body which we can see, and the other is the subtle body which we cannot see.

The greatest contribution to mankind made by Mahavira and Buddha is not the doctrine of nonviolence, their greatest contribution is the doctrine of remembering past lives.

This happens only once.

It will take time to forget what has returned to your mind.

But with the occurrence of the ultimate death, what we call moksha, the subtle body disintegrates along with the gross body as well.

Our entire future depends upon what kind of soul enters the womb.

And remember, your vital energy is always moving -- if it is not journeying upward, it is journeying downward.

People only look up when there is something above to see.

After that there is neither one nor many.

But why are you so nervous?"

We call these inferior souls ghosts and evil spirits.

5 November 1969 am in Opera House, Bombay, India

How can one who is busy forgetting his present life remember his past ones? And how can one who cannot remember his past lives change his present one?

Those friends who find my challenge worth accepting, who feel they have enough courage and strength to tread a path which is absolutely unknown, unfamiliar, to cross a totally uncharted ocean, should know within themselves that such courage and daring only exists in them because deep down a divine call must have come -- otherwise such courage and daring is not possible.

In this unfortunate state of affairs, those who have denounced the householders life and those who have made a great fuss over the life of renunciation are equally responsible.

They are saying, "God is not two; there is no way you can count God in terms of numbers.

At the moment of death, the gross body falls away, but the subtle body remains intact.

We care about childrens education, about their clothes, about their health and nutrition, but we have completely given up on caring about what kind of soul a child would have.

With the union of forty-eight chromosomes a female body is formed -- both sides of its scale containing twenty-four chromosomes each, balanced.

We cannot hope for a better human race this way.

I have decided I wont call people.

In the past, the number of evil spirits was very large while the number of gods was very small.

They keep the desire solely out of compassion, for the good and wellbeing of all mankind.

It enters in accordance with the structure of the atomic body, with the situation the atomic body is in.

Ramleela will be seen as nothing but a play which went on for a long time, and Rama will simply be remembered as an upshot of it.

We dont even know how we are living in our body.

Similarly, the consciousness manifesting through us is one, but in the manifestation of this consciousness, two vehicles are applied.

With the revival of this memory, his chase after wealth will instantly end, his attachment to position will disappear.

He will have to go as far back as the point when he was conceived in the mothers womb.

Both Buddha and Mahavira conducted intensive experiments in jati-smaran, in recalling the memories of past lives.

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Ramakrishna used to become very anxious about food.

No, that idea of changing each individual is not feasible.

This is the reason why man remains so restless, so intensely discontented throughout his life.

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and it can be done easily.

Up to now, religion has suffered from the extreme influence of those who have renounced the world.

All the heights attained so far are being taken as fantasies, are becoming myths.

Why would I get upset? The past life is already gone.

You may find it strange, but all religions of the world have been opposed to alcohol.

Even if a few people can become enlightened, we can destroy the entire darkness engulfing the human race.

You see many light bulbs around here.

We need people like Jesus, Krishna, Buddha, Mahavira.

I said, "It is difficult.

This body is instrumental in taking us on our continuing journey.

The Ultimate Freedom

If religion could be taught rightly, and if every individual could be given right thought, right concept and vision, within twenty years we can create a totally new generation of men.

When a new soul enters the mothers womb, it means this subtle body enters.

You may not have noted it, but within the last fifty years, two experiments of an opposite nature prevailed in India.

After that there is no more birth, no more death.

When we enter this body we find another body -- the subtle body.

Even his close disciples remonstrated with him.

The history of human consciousness shows there were times when the whole consciousness of mankind soared to such heights you can hardly imagine.

He was experimenting to see if it was possible for a few souls to rise so high that their very presence would begin to uplift other souls, would call out to other souls and they would start rising.

The yogic eye is able to see the subtle body.

But there no longer remains any meaning, any purpose in entering another dead body: the other body was dead because the soul had found it unsuitable to reside in.

One experiment was conducted by Gandhi, while the other was carried out by Aurobindo.

Of course, God is one.

If all this is recalled even once, a person will never repeat it again -- because having repeated an act so many times, its worthlessness becomes self-evident; the whole thing becomes meaningless.

Wherever I come across eyes which I feel can become burning lamps, can be lit with the divine flame, I am ready to put my whole effort into making this a reality.

The time has come for the raising of consciousness, and for having these consciousnesses remain there aloft so that others may look up to them.

He is always on the lookout so that someday he can tell everyone his old image of the person is shattered, that he no longer gives him any credence because he has discovered a blemish.

Do you know what samsara means? Samsara means a wheel, the spokes of which keep revolving, keep moving up and down.

Deep down, the distortion of the marital relationship is the cause.

The reason is very simple, not very big really.

Ill search in each and every village.

We were waiting for someone to call us.

However, one whose thoughts are all annihilated, whose passions have all vanished, whose desires have all disappeared, who has no desire left within him, there is no place for him to go, there is no reason left for him to go anywhere.

The cycle of birth and death stops with the end of the subtle body, because it is the subtle body that causes a new birth.

Ill look into the eyes of each and every man to make sure who he is.

Lao Tzu, Confucius and Chuang Tzu appeared in China.

If a hundred people in India agree to experiment and are determined to raise their consciousnesses as high as humanly possible, the entire face of India can be changed in the next twenty years.

The love between them is merely a consequence of companionship.

I am ready, with conviction, to put each and every word Ive said to the test.

Only after reaching that point can he step into the memories of past lives.

And the journey will be unsuccessful this time as well.

Then there is no reason for him to take birth again.

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It means the subtle body the soul is enveloped in has not disintegrated yet.

Whoever wants to reach Delhi should descend to the netherworld, lower and lower.

Those whom we call the tirthankaras, those whom we call the buddhas, the sons of God, the avataras -- they hold on to only one desire.

And the entire responsibility for this lies with mankinds marital system.

She said, "Please dont ask me.

Let me tell those friends who have raised this question that, from my side, I am fully prepared.

Aurobindo carried out an experiment which did not appear to be successful.

What we have done many times before, we keep doing over and over again.

There is no contradiction in my statements.

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Subsequently, the body comprised of subtle thoughts, subtle feelings, subtle vibrations, subtle filaments, remains.

Anyone who wishes can be taken into his past lives; however, he will first have to regress in this life.

The sense of humility I have found in people who drink, I havent seen in those who dont drink.

A man always wants to believe he is the greatest.

I could have also sung the same song.

Perhaps those around him did not give much thought to this at the time.

And the reason is very significant.

Ordinary eyes are able to see the gross body.

Those who have called this life samsara

Question 1

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I have absolutely no idea what I did on January 1, 1950.

The cell that is created on the first day in a mothers womb contains the whole inbuilt program in itself.

He will come to see how many times he has amassed wealth, how many mansions he has built, how many times he has run after prestige, honor, status, how many times he has traveled to Delhi and attained high position.

Even a little thing makes the difference, an incredible difference, if there is no harmony, no rapport between the man and the woman.

But were a man to enter this storehouse unwittingly, without understanding, he would instantly go mad -- so overwhelming are the memories.

The same caps have now become worthy to be tossed into holy fires of each and every village; they have now become symbols of the bourgeoisie,of the corruption in the country.

The child born out of the union of a man and a woman shows how deeply they are in love with each other, how much spirituality exists between them, and with how much purity and prayerfulness they have come together.

This is not right.

When a man finds it so hard to live with the memories of a single day, when he is not brave enough to face this life, how will he be able to gather the courage to recall previous lives?

" To call it one is meaningless when there is no way to follow it with two, when one cant count any further in the sequence of two and three.

It is highly possible he might become corrupt like the others.

My doors are open to them.

With the disappearance of that desire, the entire support ceased to exist.

A FRIEND HAS ASKED: ONCE THE SOUL HAS LEFT A BODY, CAN IT ENTER INTO ANOTHER DEAD BODY?

If none is found, a new wrong is invented so a man can feel comfortable in his own stupidity and feel he is doing fine.

They will call them all merely fictitious characters.

And yet, once again he approaches them and thinks that this wonderful event is happening for the first time in his life.

Let us see if at the time of my death I also have to say, "I was looking for a hundred people, but couldnt find them.

Each time a man drops one body and acquires another, the door to the memories of his previous body closes.

They would say, "Its giving you a bad name.

They are saying something quite remarkable.

Whats there to worry about now?"

" So Ramleela, the enactment of Ramas adventures, would precede Rama.

I was a devadasi.

What I am saying is not just theoretical.

Right here the imbalance is created, the harmony is broken.

" But those who go beyond even the subtle body will say, "God is one, the soul is one, Brahman is one.

By entering human bodies, ghosts and evil spirits, which otherwise used to be held back from taking birth, have now all joined the human race! Thats why its so difficult to see ghosts and evil spirits nowadays.

So anyone can enter his past life.

Religion could not evolve for the benefit of the householder.

The cell he receives from the mother contains twenty-four chromosomes and the cell received from the father consists of twenty-three chromosomes.

They will be more like ghosts and evil spirits; their lives will be filled with anger, hatred, and violence.

Until we have redefined the meaning of marital life and brought it to a healthy state; until we have refined it, spiritualized it, we cannot improve the future of mankind.

The soul is essentially one too, but the body is of two types.

Its no use asking, however, how one can enter another body when we dont even know how we exist in the body we are already in.

This has happened millions of times.

The very purpose of knowing oneself is to know the soul.

The seeker who passed through these memories even once, was transformed.

As it is, there are already enough worries and troubles in ones present life.

I dont want to go any further into my past life.

The man will come to know how many women he has had relations with in the course of thousands of years, and the woman will come to know how many men she has had relations with -- and that no man was ever satisfied by a woman, nor was any woman ever satisfied by a man.

Whatsoever Gandhi had painted on them washed away in the rain.

If I ask you what you did on January 1, 1950, perhaps you wont be able to answer.

And yet, a man still wonders whether he should enjoy this or that woman and a woman still wonders whether she should enjoy this or that man.

The lower a person falls, the bigger his bank balance, the larger his mansion, the fancier his Cadillac -- so there is much to see below.

In any case, there is no reason for entering another body; however, in scientific terms, it can be said that it is possible to enter another body -- because, basically, a body cannot be seen in terms of yours and mine.

Nevertheless, it is indeed possible to enter another body.

I would like to say to you that very few people can reach God through the path of renunciation.

Our belief in gods obviously declined, because how can one believe in them when they are so hard to find? There was a time when gods were as real as any other actuality of our lives.

One is significant only in the context of other numbers.

Knowing past lives is far more difficult.

ARENT THESE STATEMENTS CONTRADICTORY?

All the truths of life, all the experiences up to this point are becoming falsities.

I dont even want to remember it for a second.

It is like a drop merging into the ocean.

Every moment life is in motion.

I know people who drink, and I also know people who do not drink.

Today, Delhi is way down, absolutely in the pit.

I dont know why the experts in India have placed the wheel on the national flag.

Their bodies stand naked in New Delhi.

The dish fell from her hands and she began to weep bitterly.

He thinks, writes books, gives birth to religion.

When I referred to the entering of the soul, I meant that soul which is still associated with the subtle body.

What remains after that cannot, in any way, be counted in numbers; hence those who know dont even say, "Brahman is one, the divine is one.

An even personality does not grow, it remains stagnant.

I would like to start a movement throughout the world, not of many people -- I only need a few courageous individuals ready to experiment.

All this restlessness begins with a very small incident, having one chromosome less on one side of the scale.

Going beyond this subtle body, we attain that which is not a body, that which is bodiless -- the soul.

However, giving their reasons for opposing alcohol, these ordinary, absolutely stupid politicians explain to the whole world they are against it because it destroys moral character, ruins wealth and property, makes man violent.

She wont do anything.

Then there is no more birth for the soul.

When you see a movie for the first time you may enjoy it.

One or two hundred years from now, children will refuse to believe there ever were people like Buddha, Mahavira and Christ.

Thats why we say that the soul which attains to the ultimate freedom steps out of the cycle of birth and death.

He searches and investigates.

Consequently, a blind repetition goes on.

There is a slight deficiency in the personality of man.

CAN WE KNOW ABOUT PAST LIVES?

In the village where Buddha would arrive with his ten thousand bhikkhus, within three days the whole vibe of that place would change.

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She wont climb Everest, land on the moon or stars; nor will she search for religions, write books or make discoveries in science.

We enact Ramleela because we believe a person like Rama did exist before -- and so we perform Ramleela.

The soul resides within two bodies -- the subtle body and the gross body.

He climbs Everest, crosses mountains, lands on the moon, reaches the stars.

" Even calling him one we are attempting to count him in terms of numbers, which is wrong.

Its like a boat tied down with one last rope.

They are talking about gods who walk very closely with them, on this very earth.

Ashoka had engraved it on his stupas, on his Buddhist shrines, in order to remind people that life is a revolving wheel, that it is like an ox moving in circles at a water wheel, that things go around and around in a circle, coming back again and again to where they were before.

Whatsoever we have known, we never forget.

One who goes beyond meditation attains samadhi, and it is in the state of samadhi that one experiences the divine.

Its like a storehouse where we throw things that are no longer needed and shut the door.

The balance in her personality does not fill her with the passion to transcend.

The vital energy is never static.

No, they are talking about gods who speak to them, who sing and laugh with them.

But to experience that one is still a long way.

People say, How can such a person have attained knowledge when his desire for food is so overwhelming?"

Thus, when the twenty-four chromosomes of the mother meet the twenty-three of the father, the male body is formed.

If you look below you will see Delhi in the lowest region of the earth, in the lowest hell.

Those who were close to him, who knew him to be a paramhansa, an enlightened one, used to be deeply troubled about one thing.

But that sort of wonderful event has occurred to him many times before.

He says its just an old play which, in the course of time, people forgot and began to look upon as history.

The day this desire is lost they cease to live in the body, and an endless journey towards the infinite begins.

There is no meeting of souls in their love, none of the movement that brings two beings together into oneness.

He is always anxious, always worried about what to do and what not to do, whether to do this or to do that.

It symbolizes life being defeated daily.

The soul enters this atomic body.

It is a tiny body, an atomic body.

A FRIEND HAS ASKED: IF A MAN AND A WOMAN CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE SOUL TO TAKE BIRTH, THEN DOES IT MEAN THERE ARE MANY SEPARATE SOULS AND NOT ONE UNIVERSAL SOUL? ALSO, ON MANY OCCASIONS YOU HAVE SAID THERE IS ONLY ONE TRUTH, ONE GOD, ONE SOUL.

He will have to walk the memory lane of his present life.

One who enters into sex without first extending a loving invitation to the incoming soul is a sinner.

If only a hundred people could be assembled like this, I assure you their souls will rise like Mount Everest.

Similarly, there is a collective house of memories, a house of unconsciousness where all unwanted memories -- memories no longer needed in the mind -- are stored.

But three days before Ramakrishnas death, when Sharada entered with a dish of food, Ramakrishna looked at it, shut his eyes, and lay with his back turned towards her.

There is no contradiction.

Most people reach God through the path of the householder and through marital relationship.

" Exactly three days after this incident Ramakrishna died.

You wished I should not crave for food -- your wish has come true.

Sharada asked, "What do you mean?"

Vivekananda went on calling but the people didnt come.

I am staying on with effort.

There is nothing else which can succeed today.

But there are people who, even after going beyond the physical body, may stop at the subtle body.

I will move from town to town giving this clarion call.

Had it been evolved for the sake of the householder, before the very first moment of birth we would have considered what kind of soul we wanted to invite, what kind of soul we wanted to beckon, what type of soul we wanted to allow to enter life.

On the third day you will say, "Thank you, I dont wish to see the movie any more.

One is the subtle vehicle, the subtle body; the other is the gross vehicle, the gross body.

Question 2

Once that rope is cut loose the boat will move on to its endless journey.

He is a criminal, and his children are illegitimate even though they may be born in wedlock.

How long will images of stone convince us that Buddha and Mahavira really did exist? How long will the words of The Bible assure us of the existence of Christ? And how long will the Bhagavadgita be able to show that Krishna lived? Not for long.

And they helped every seeker to go back into his previous life.

The truth of the matter is

We will keep moving in circles like an ox at a water wheel.

The first cell in the mothers womb contains twenty-four chromosomes of the man and twenty-four chromosomes of the woman.

First, there is the element of the soul.

When a soul enters a mothers womb it is actually entering a body -- a very small body, an atomic body, but entering a body nevertheless.

I used to think I was very pure and chaste, but in my previous birth I was a prostitute in a temple in the south.

If only a hundred people had come, I could have changed the whole country.

By and by, man will deny all the great souls because their symbols, their signs, are nowhere visible.

One day his wife Sharada got very upset and reproached him.

Ramakrishna told her, "You have no idea, but the day I show aversion to food, know that I shall not live more than three days afterwards.

The reason has been that, in trying to forget himself, man gives up the courage to remember.

The personality of man is uneven, hence you see him racing ahead, growing.

I made love with thousands of people.

The most important thing is that we have stopped marriages resulting from love, that marriages are happening without love.

Thats why those who know dont even say Brahmanan is one; they say Brahman is non-dual, he is not two.

Such a small phenomenon can cause such an enormous difference in personality! I am pointing this out because this is just a biological occurrence, because one can biologically see how such a little difference gives birth to personalities so different in character.

And Ill be happy to see anyone who is ready.

The need of the hour is for a few people to come forward and, in order to experience the heights of consciousness, offer their lives totally.

Also you would be able to tell me that on the first of January your morning tea contained a little less sugar.

Perhaps they dont know, and one wonders what they think about it.

This is all nonsense.

" I am happy to know they are ready.

The rest are thrown into a dark abyss.

And that man who will not come in response to the call will have to be physically brought.

It bothered them greatly to see an enlightened person such as Ramakrishna -- one who had attained samadhi -- craving food so much.

Yesterday, I invited those with courage to experiment with me.

Three things have to be understood.

Nonattachment is created by reviving the memories of previous births.

In a flash she remembered Ramakrishnas words about his death.

It refuses to accept there can be someone greater.

You have beckoned us; we are ready.

Twenty-five hundred years ago India saw the advent of Buddha, Mahavira, Prabuddha Katyayana, Makkhali Gosal, Sanjaya Vilethiputta.

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At the time of his death Vivekananda said, "I kept calling for a hundred people to come, but they never did.

And each time, in the final analysis, the journey has proven unsuccessful.

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We call these superior souls, gods.

We have lost our contact with the world of gods because we dont have men among us who can become links, who can become bridges between gods and men and let men know what gods are.

Then the soul becomes one with the whole.

There is no station where you can get off and rest, whether you are moving up or down.

One side of his scale is made up of twenty-four chromosomes.

With the meeting of two cells, each containing twenty-four chromosomes, the first cell of forty-eight chromosomes is created.

She was very keen to know her past lives.

Where ten thousand bhikkhus assembled and prayed, it was as if the darkness was dispelled from the village, as if the prayer was spread over the entire village, as if hearts began to bloom and were filled with fragrance for the first time.

The human race is becoming increasingly miserable and unhappy.

The harmony, the rhythm is complete in her.

It was said in Egypt, "A person who calls for God should know that God must have called him long before, otherwise the call could not have arisen in him.

The reason nonattachment has declined in todays world is that there is no means available for remembering past lives.

I am telling you this because I have done many experiments along this line.

If you are shown the movie the next day you may tolerate it.

Remembering the past one comes to see that the same act has been played many times before, that the same story has occurred many times before, that the same songs have been sung many times before.

So long as power didnt shower down upon them their faces looked very impressive, their clothes of khadi looked very bright, and their caps seemed to assure people they would lift the country to greater heights.

And until we have remembered our past lives, we will be born again and again -- and will repeat the same stupidities over and over, endlessly.

" But if you could be hypnotized

It is man who has given rise to human civilizations -- and all because of one small matter: he lacks one chromosome.

So the wheel is a symbol of samsara; it does not represent any victory march.

Ramakrishna said, "All my desires and passions have disappeared, all my thoughts are gone -- but for the good of mankind I am deliberately holding on to this one desire for food.

Those who feel the call from within have a great responsibility towards mankind.

Saying one is meaningful only as long as two, three and four are also there.

The human mind is never ready to believe there can be people with higher minds.

Those whose character he thought he had improved turned out to be made of clay: a slight drizzle and, in the last twenty years, all the paint wore off.

He would often enter the kitchen, asking his wife Sharada Devi, "Whats cooking today? Its getting so late!" Right in the middle of a serious talk on spiritual matters he would get up abruptly and rush towards the kitchen asking what was being cooked, start looking for food.

That little desire had become the support for the continuation of his life-journey.

We are familiar with the gross, the physical body; a yogi is familiar with the subtle body, and those who go beyond yoga are familiar with the soul.

A man falls in love with a woman and begins courting her.

The kind of arrogance I have seen in non-drinkers I have never come across in those who drink.

Who would you look at? Who is up there? What greater misfortune can there be than that there are no longer any souls above worth seeing -- such souls that just seeing them creates a deep longing in our hearts, such souls that just looking at them brings a cry from our whole being, such souls that just looking at them fills us with self-reproach, make us feel: "I could have been a lamp like this.

In the world of consciousness there is no stopping, no waiting.

Children born of a marriage without love can never be loving, can never be godlike.

Before getting into the experiment, one needs to give it very careful consideration, however.

A golden age seemed to have arrived all around the world.

The subtle body is an integrated seed consisting of our thoughts, desires, lusts, longings, experiences, knowledge.

Should it even once occur to you that "I could have been the same too" -- of course you need someone to look up to for such an inspiration -- your vital energy would embark on a higher journey.

Man is imbalanced.

Experiments similar to Gandhis were conducted many times before and each time, failed.

It has nothing to do with what the politicians are saying.

Yes it can.

I was delighted to receive a few letters saying, "We are very eager to begin the experiment.

No, I want to forget all that.

Very superior souls are prevented from taking birth too, because they dont find suitable opportunities, wombs that high in quality, either.

Remember, however, it is not without reason that nature has arranged for us to forget our past lives.

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Even your recollection of the memories of a single day will not allow you to survive.

What can be gained by thinking about such worthless things as entering another body? We dont even know how we entered the body we have now.

He became a different man.

Thousands of Buddhas disciples were awakened, and their light, their flame began stirring village after village.

She was trembling all over, in tears.

If he were to come to know this fact, he would be like a man who has seen a movie ten or twenty times.

Mahavira lit the divine flame within the hearts of fifty thousand people who accompanied him from place to place.

The bulbs have different bodies, but their soul is one.

Now is the time the world needs at least a few people to attain enlightenment.

Nonattachment, freedom from worldly desires, comes with remembering the past.

Question 3

But that which is beyond yoga, that which exists beyond the subtle body, is experienced only in samadhi.

Essentially, the search is to find something wrong with the person.

Should a man gather enough courage to recall the memories of his past life, he will become a different man altogether -- because he will come to see he is repeating things he has already done thousands of times before.

On that journey, the spirit, the life energy of the whole country can move ahead.

He will realize the innumerable times he has done all this, and that once again he is doing the same thing.

She began to cry bitterly and said, "I want to forget what I have remembered.

For example, the possibility that ones hair may turn gray fifty years from the time of conception is hidden in that tiny little seed.

This is a great challenge for those who feel they can do something for humanity.

He makes a thousand attempts to find some fault, some defect in the other in order to prove he is inferior too.

In the event of death only the gross body disintegrates, not the subtle body.

This boredom, this continuous chain, is meaningless -- because well die again and again, keep forgetting our actions, and the same thing will start all over again.

The body which is made of earth and water, the body which consists of flesh, bones and marrow, drops, dies.

Right now we are still at the level of the gross body, of the body which endlessly takes multiple forms.

Then there is no future for mankind.

A few people rose, and with that the eyes of those who were below were uplifted.

There is indeed no birth and death for the soul --it was never born, nor will it ever die.

Both sides of a womans being are well balanced; hence the whole beauty of a woman -- her shapeliness, her art, the juice of her personality, the poetry of her personality.

He could not succeed, but he was moving in the right direction.

You might say, "I dont remember anything.

Religions have opposed alcohol only because one who drinks does so to forget himself.

I am now dying a disheartened man.

A few questions have been asked, seeking clarification of certain points I discussed in last nights talk.

Never before was the human soul so powerfully in evidence.

The body was discarded because it had become useless, hence there is no point in entering that body.

A woman does nothing of this kind.

God is one, but there are countless subtle bodies and there are countless gross bodies.

But each time we forget this fact and start repeating ourselves with great interest and enthusiasm.

This restricted experience is the cause of all human misery and ignorance.

So Gandhi seemed to be succeeding but ended as a total failure.

Thus, by making you unconscious, were I to ask what you did on January 1, 1950, you would give me the whole days account as if the first of January were passing before your eyes right at that moment.

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