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And Now, And Here 作者:奥修 印度)

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Chapter 6

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We will have to see death.

Thats why thinking is never original.

The whole day we are alive; the whole night we are dead.

The body is relaxing

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This is the reason we are afraid of falling in love.

A writer doesnt care much about having a son, about having an offspring.

After that there is no way he can ever be a winner, because then he exists no more.

Jesus also says, "Blessed are those who are ready to stand in the last row.

The flowers bloom and the birds begin to sing.

The breathing is going on calming down

A vision is always of truth; a thought is always of convenience.

And remember, if you still have a mother, then you wont be able to come near me.

He will of course be gone, but he wants to create another wave which will continue further on, which will at least identify the wave it came from.

The final step will be as instrumental in bringing him to Calcutta as the initial step.

A man who was an atheist in his youth becomes a theist in his old age.

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You will have to see it.

the consciousness has remained lit like a flame.

" These are danger signals.

The breathing is going on calming down

Thoughts are always stale.

" Why? -- because it is possible the man may feel embarrassed taking the shirt away from you.

If a desire to freeze arises in us, the consciousness, otherwise so simple and fluid, freezes and becomes an ego.

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The change is not total, it is a partial transformation.

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Only a happy mind rings bells in the temple, kindles lamps and chants prayers.

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Dont take too much trouble, dont bother too much; theres no need to exert yourself -- just come and sit on me.

So remember, if you see atheism increasing around the world, know well that misery must be on the increase too.

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let go completely

the breathing is calming down

Only go on looking wakefully

Please show us the trick.

In the final analysis, death is our total defeat.

Unless, of course, it becomes ice.

We have to know what death is, see it as it is.

Jesus says, "When someone comes to defeat you, be defeated readily.

No one can enter into him, nor can he enter into anyone.

as if a wave may disappear and become the ocean.

If one says, "It is wrong that one man should live in a big house and the other in a shanty," then what is the problem in questioning, "Why should one man have a pretty woman and another man not? The division should be equal.

But if the wave, by falling back into the ocean, were to make itself cease to exist as separate, if it were to come to know that it is in fact the ocean, then there wouldnt be any question of the waves disappearing.

A vision has nothing to do with convenience.

And sit at a little distance from each other so that no one falls over you if someone lies down, or falls over.

It does not show understanding, it merely shows our concern for convenience.

Different people do different jobs -- people sweat the whole day.

Hence, the reason for all the violence in the world is totally different from what people ordinarily take it to be.

slowly, slowly, everything will turn into a void.

You may say, "The roseflower is very beautiful," but how many times have you heard this before? How many times have you read this before? Or you may say, "The roseflower is just as beautiful as the face of my beloved.

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One who is afraid of death and wants to save himself, readily accepts the belief in the immortality of the soul.

The man who penetrates death, who is not afraid of death, who does not run away from it, who begins to live it -- his I disappears, his ego disappears.

First the "I" says, "Break yourself away from the all, isolate yourself; you are different from the whole.

The wave will melt and it will make a big hue and cry, because as soon as it melts it will disappear.

There was no place beyond that.

And everything has disappeared

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A FRIEND HAS ASKED: SOME PEOPLE COMMIT SUICIDE.

(A deep silence prevails

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But I was puzzled about one thing: he would never speak kindly to anyone; otherwise he was a good man.

" And there is nothing wrong in it, because all along you have been treating women as your property anyway.

look within

And even by the waning hours of afternoon there was no sign of Kamal.

There is a state of activity and there is a state of rest.

Thats why man likes to live in a crowd; he feels afraid if he is left alone.

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Light always shone -- the sun rose and set.

It will be a mess; everything will become ugly and distorted.

I was very happy to be at the end; it saved me from all sorts of trouble.

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The more he succeeds in killing others, the more alive he will feel.

I am not asking you to think, even.

relax your body

If the body wants to drop, let it drop

The wave has created its own organization.

A great spectrum of bliss will unfold within that very void

Philosophy means conceptual thinking.

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Meditation means to move into what is, where we are.

Then open the eyes slowly

This means that when he took his first step towards Calcutta, he began to reach Calcutta.

There is great danger in being fluid, there is insecurity in it.

The reason for this violence is not that it is caused because people dont drink unstrained water or they eat after sunset, no, it is nothing of that sort.

It is dangerous to fall in love with a stranger; he may sneak off at night with all your valuables! So first we make absolutely certain who the man is, what he does, where his parents are from, how his character is, what his qualities are.

the mind will become even calmer.

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Where will you run from it? Where will you go?

The wave has declared, "I am the ocean," and now it is not attempting to connect itself with each and every other wave.

An unhappy mind wants to express its anger.

the body is relaxing

Putting an end to their lives does not mean they find any joy in death, but since life appears worse than death to them, they prefer death.

If we dont even know the circumference, how will we ever know the center? And if we run away from the circumference, we will never reach closer to the center.

When Lao Tzu was about to die, somebody asked him to reveal a few secrets of his life.

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It is just as if I have a coin in my hand and I say, "Why bother about the reverse side of the coin? Why not just forget it?" If I give up the reverse side, then I will lose the front side of the coin too, because both make two sides of the same coin.

What fun can there be in defeating someone who doesnt even want to win?"

You are only knowing

Why should some men have a monopoly over beautiful women? Women should belong to all.

I said, "As such, you are a very simple man.

He obviously does not want to save any part of himself, because if he does he will be saving nothing but his misery and pain.

die completely from outside.

One day life will leave you totally; even if you want to keep it, it wont stay.

The man who wants to create ego has to become cold as well; he has to lose his warmth.

we have slipped completely inside

Actually, life is sustained by warmth; death is cold, below zero.

What we call living is just another name for dying gradually.

One can never deny death.

Drop your grip completely

A person who is miserable, troubled, sick and in pain feels he should meet a total death, that nothing should be left behind -- because if any part of him does survive, then it would obviously mean he would survive

This phenomenon of death will have to be seen, this phenomenon of death will have to be lived, this phenomenon of death, that "I am dying, I am dying," will have to be accepted.

the thoughts are relaxing

Go on loosening it, feel that the body is relaxing

Disappear completely from outside

come back from meditation.

But all these efforts to unite are invitations to death -- because the one with whom you are forming a union is as much surrounded by death, as much surrounded by the ego

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The works of Mahavira and Marx cannot make the least difference.

Kamal went as he was told.

There is no harmony anywhere between the two.

No one could insult me because I never desired honor.

the body is relaxing.

A cold person becomes hard, unable to flow, closed from all sides.

There is an incredible saying of Jesus.

the body is going on relaxing

It is not that happiness is caused by believing in God; a miserable mind inevitably becomes atheistic.

But his very asking, "Why bring in the idea of death?" or "Lets just live and not even think of death" shows in itself that even he cannot escape thinking about death.

The man who is ready to meet death with absolute spontaneity, he alone is ready to live as well.

Thats why theres nothing like Indian philosophy and nothing like Western darshan.

But scriptures also become lost.

And there is another kind of love where we have stopped our attempts to break away from the whole.

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It is only a question of time, but melting is bound to happen.

And Jesus says, "If someone asks you to carry his load for a mile, at the end of the mile ask him if he would like you to carry it further.

The man who is afraid of death will run away from it.

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A seer penetrates within because there remains no wall between him and the object before him -- the wall crumbles, disappears.

do not keep any hold over it

One who harbors the thought of winning is always the loser.

Thats why I say: look at death.

What she said at the dinner table comes back to you -- and the thought stands between you.

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am knowing

This wave and the other wave are both dying, and yet they get into a relationship with each other in the hope that by joining with each other they perhaps may save themselves.

To his great amazement, he realizes, "What a great mystery lies hidden in death! What I knew as death and kept running away from, actually conceals within itself the source of supreme life.

Thinking and seeing are two altogether different processes.

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A sunset is as much a reality as the sunrise -- the difference is only of direction.

Thoughts can never be original.

look within

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a flame of knowing

Therefore one moves into meditation only when one is ready for dying, not otherwise.

I dont want to disappear.

Remain just a watcher

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of seeing.

No one ever forced me out of there or pushed me aside; nor did anyone say, Get lost! because that was the last place.

Leave the body completely relaxed as if there is no life in it.

Whatsoever is, that has to be known.

These facts will have to be seen, will have to be lived.

slowly take a few deep breaths.

And remember, the warmer a person is the more simple he is.

The ego is like frozen ice and love is like water, fluid, flowing.

And remember also, the man who attempts to escape his own death will continue to work towards the killing of others.

In it, the wave has contracted; it has become frozen.

Thats why our so-called love is very painful, because it is a wave trying to relate with another wave.

Has it ever occurred to you that the hundredth degree is also a degree, just as the first degree is also a degree? The journey from the ninety-ninth degree to the hundredth degree is the same as from the first to the second degree; there is no difference.

There is a difference between thinking and seeing -- and the difference is significant.

" But we know this is ridiculous: sleeping is the other side of waking up.

Do you know that the body undergoes change overnight and comes out different every morning? The change is so minimal you dont notice it.

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the body is relaxing.

There is no other reason except that they have found a different kind of son.

We try our best to falsify death; we have invented a thousand ways to falsify it.

"Once again you are making a mistake.

then open your eyes

This is the only cause of separation: we are not flowing, we have become like blocks; we are not like water, we are like frozen ice.

and get up very slowly and gently.

become a void completely.

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Those who take philosophy and darshan to be synonymous know nothing.

Just as there are laws for the freezing of water, there are laws for the freezing of human consciousness.

You will always be insulted because you are filled with the desire for recognition.

And this carries a totally different meaning.

So I am not saying you should think about death.

Now it will fall into the struggle to protect itself from death.

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And when the person finds no cause for being unhappy, then who should he be angry at? He obviously becomes filled with bitterness towards the unknown.

That which is ascending on one side is declining on the other.

The moment you know death, you come to realize that it is not.

But the truth is, it is already disappearing.

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if it falls it falls.

Deep down, this is avoiding death.

the breathing has relaxed.

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The ocean has always been; it is only the wave which has taken form and then disintegrated.

Hence he is not interested in having a family; he has created a different kind of family.

We keep on adding to it.

Now just give him a car, a big bungalow and a beautiful girl to marry, and in fifteen days you will see a totally different man.

The West has a science of thinking -- it consists of investigation, logic, analysis.

only seeing.

We cant even imagine a person like Jesus, so full of love, can utter such words as, "I have no mother.

We take all the measures, we take the full social precautions; only then do we accept the individual in marriage.

The disciples pleaded, "Even so, please explain to us.

If you dont remain stiff with your son, his pocket money goes on increasing.

We have slipped withinwards

Love is never cold, it contains warmth.

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There are a few more questions which we will be able to discuss during the night session.

Then death takes over.

more inside

How were you never defeated?"

only a flame near the heart has remained burning.

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In its loneliness a wave is left totally by itself -- slipping away, falling away, vanishing, close to disappearing, feeling alienated on both sides -- the ocean on one, the rest of the waves on the other.

Mercy and sympathy bring warmth; cruelty and ruthlessness bring cold.

I was a guest at a friends house for a few days.

Also, if someone feels like lying down during the experiment he should do so.

If anyone ever came to challenge me he found me already defeated, so he couldnt have any fun defeating me.

There are people who think this way.

The same law works: keep on becoming cold.

You may or may not have noticed that people who are engaged in a creative activity -- a painter, a musician, a poet, a writer -- are not too concerned with having sons, simply because they have found a substitute.

mind is becoming empty.

If you see an increasing number of people believing in God, you should know that more and more people are becoming happy.

So if you look upon yourself as a wave you will want to avoid death -- you will remain afraid, scared.

Let go

disappear

What I am asking is: how will one who hasnt even known death yet know what life is? My point is: death is on the circumference; life is at the center.

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Finding no hindrance in between, it will enter, and then you wont feel you want to know the rose, you will feel you are one with the rose.

Hitler, Genghis Khan, and other such people, killed millions in order to assure themselves that "No one can kill me, since I kill millions myself.

What I call the I is dying all the time.

the breathing is going on calming down

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What we call the birthday is actually the first day of death.

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Those who want to lie down, do so beforehand.

One day life will leave you, so feel it by dropping it now.

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I was the lord of my own place; I have always been the lord of my own place.

For example, a man sets out from Dwarka for Calcutta.

In fact, birth constitutes one end of death, and death constitutes the other end.

go deeper within.

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Death will not happen in the future -- death is already happening every moment.

In fact, defeat begins with the very idea of victory.

And how long will it survive in that state? Whatsoever is frozen will undoubtedly melt.

The other day it was convenient for him to think that the property be divided; now it is inconvenient to think that property be divided.

Take fifty men and infect them with chronic diseases, and keep the other fifty in good health.

What seems to be the matter? The question is that if a wave is attempting to unite with another wave, it wont be able to come close to the ocean.

The joy is in defeating one who desires to be victorious.

Then the wave becomes the ocean; its fear of extinction disappears.

Sometimes we say that such-and-such a person is very cold -- there is no warmth in him; he becomes hard like a rock.

As long as it was one with the ocean, there was no death at all -- because the ocean never dies.

the body is relaxing.

The experience of ignorance is death; the experience of awareness is immortality.

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let go

Only a flame has remained burning

So its all right for the former wave to disappear -- it leaves another one behind.

So one who wants to create an ego has to become cold, and in order to become cold he has to lose all those things which give warmth.

Love means warmth; a cold love carries no meaning.

We get up every morning and go to work.

Thats why no one wants to live without love and be miserable.

The more we secure ourselves, the harder and colder the wall of iceis all around us, and it shrinks our entire being.

The day one realizes this, not only does the sting of death depart, the thought of not dying disappears as well.

We are dying this very moment.

One who is miserable, living in pain, will readily believe that death takes everything away -- including the soul -- that death leaves nothing behind.

Birth is on one side, death is on the other.

Water has to cool in order to become ice, it has to lose its heat, it has to turn cold.

Once Kabir asked his son Kamal to go to the forest and bring some hay for their cattle.

For all the rest, as if death has happened

Let go totally.

Leave the breathing also relaxed.

Relax your body

I was never asked to move from a place because I always stood at the end, where no one could push me further back.

What I am saying is: here is death, right now within you, and you have to see it.

Both comprise bliss.

Then whether it disappears or remains, it still exists -- because it knows that "I am not a wave, I am the ocean.

As a wave it was one with the ocean; however, if it becomes a chunk of ice it will survive, of course, but then it will be cut off from the ocean.

The East has experienced that there are certain facts which can never be known by thinking about them.

Actually, both are aspects of the same thing.

He should remove thoughts from his memory; he should become empty, and live in that moment with the flower.

There is no meeting point between a father and a son.

With each step Calcutta drew nearer and nearer.

A man who thinks about love may perhaps write a thesis on it, but a lover lives it, sees it; its possible he may not be able to write a thesis.

What else can it be? And both are melting, sinking, fading away; thats why they are frightened, worried.

You may perhaps say he took six months to arrive at Calcutta, but the fact is that it is only because he had started to arrive six months ago that he could arrive six months later.

That is really when a relationship takes place, because then no one exists to disrupt it.

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He came to himself, realized what had happened, and immediately apologized.

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No matter where you escape, no matter which direction you take, eventually you are going to end up there.

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the thoughts are going on calming down

let that spring burst forth

So man is afraid to live alone.

The second thing I would like to say to you is: dont think that death is somewhere in the future, death is present every moment.

A sick and miserable man may find it gratifying to think that everything ends in death.

By running away from the periphery, we also run away from life.

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open the eyes slowly

How can you become immortal? Such a union will double death; it will certainly not turn it into an elixir.

Death is the biggest defeat of all; thats why we want to kill our enemy -- there is no other reason.

" Thats why a father feels unhappy if he doesnt have a son -- it means he couldnt arrange his immortality.

If we sit here for an hour, we will be dead one hour.

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The mind has become completely a void.

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We are seeing

As ice, it parts from the ocean, it separates, it becomes solid.

become a void

Mind has become completely empty

Each degree will keep bringing the boiling point closer.

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" This is being very harsh.

WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THEM? ARE THESE PEOPLE NOT AFRAID OF DEATH?

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and go deeper within

They have created a wave which will remain long after they are gone.

This is the reason one who is to die wants to love.

But if a man has already effaced himself, what fun can there be in destroying such a person? Our ego wouldnt get any kick out of it.

It is not a question of convenience.

And as soon as a man looks into deaths eyes, begins to watch it, penetrate into it, he feels astounded.

But have we ever wondered what the meaning of love is?

And the same is the case when it heats up two degrees.

That is called prayer.

Slowly take a deep breath

drown

One who lives properly will die properly.

do not keep any grip

Somebody goes and digs ditches

Looking at a flower, if you begin thinking about it you will never know the flower, because the more you move into thinking about it, the further it will be removed from you.

" Mary stopped, stood there in shock.

The only difference is that we can fail to know it.

Remember, therefore, that having a vision is a tapascharya, a deep personal commitment to knowing the truth.

You can never know death by thinking about it.

The thought is gratifying to this man not because it is right.

When I stayed with him and came to know him closely, I asked him what all this was about.

Jesus went on, "Do you call this woman my mother? I have no mother.

I became the grass itself.

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We are in big trouble.

You will move ahead in your thoughts while the flower will remain lying there.

And if someone asks a lover to say something about love, he may close his eyes, tears may start rolling down his cheeks, and he might say, "Please dont ask.

One who comes to know death will, by and by, uncover it and begin to understand life as well.

mind is becoming empty

In Russia people read Marx, while in India you read Mahavira -- this makes no difference.

I could die.

Look

How can we falsify it? No matter how much we go on falsifying it, it makes no difference -- it is approaching, non-stop.

So whenever somebody went to challenge this man, he would immediately lie down on the ground and say, "Come on, sit on me.

The fear of death is responsible for creating the ugliness and the distortion.

Death is the gateway to knowing life.

am seeing.

You have never wondered however, why there is so much fear of death.

Mind is becoming empty

" The wave says, "Ill disappear, but Ill leave a little wave -- it will survive after me, the chain will continue, my name shall remain.

These are all endeavors of the ego; these are attempts by one who has broken himself away from it, to unite once again with the whole.

the mind will go on quietening.

The body goes on relaxing

mind has become a void

Hence, prayer is absolute love.

Death is such an enormous fact it cannot be ignored; although throughout our lives we try not to think of death -- not because death is not worth thinking about, but because the very thought of it is terrifying.

more inside

It will take time, but the journey will continue.

The West puts great emphasis on thinking.

But the man who has a beautiful woman will certainly protest.

In fact, it is even more enjoyable.

What can I say about love?" One who has thought about love will explain it for hours, but he may not even know one iota of love.

Now we will sit for the morning meditation.

There is no way that one who knows that such is the case can ever deny it.

The thoughts are relaxing

He said his mother was too afraid to fall asleep.

But the ego of this man we are talking about is already broken.

A waterfall may emerge and only bliss flows all around, which spreads all over you, in your every fiber, in your each particle.

go on looking inside

So he will say, "Money will be lost, wealth will be lost, but my work, my scripture will survive" -- and that is precisely what he wants.

Jesus has spoken some very strong words.

we have slipped conpletely inside

In fact, in the world of waves, no matter to what extent a wave may prolong itself, ultimately it is bound to be lost.

He makes a lot of noise -- there should be a revolution, the poor should be poor no longer, property must be divided, and so on.

So the fact of death has to be seen, not thought about.

The water will turn into steam when it heats to a hundred degrees; however, it started moving closer to becoming steam at the first degree, and then at the second, and the third and so on.

Hearing this, the disciples became very excited.

Birth and death are two aspects of the same life.

" He said, "I am very scared.

And for the man who does not find love it becomes a problem.

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And that which shone with the rising and setting of the sun was forever present, before sunrise and after sunset.

For example, Jesus says, "If a man slaps your right cheek, offer him the left.

And resting is no less enjoyable than being active.

What else would you do? What else can you do with thinking? Could even one single unheard-of and original viewpoint about a rose ever appear in your thoughts? How can it?

Thats it! The matter is over! Then everything is accepted.

The assumption is that, when we ourselves are capable of killing people, who can kill us?

Love means an attempt to reconstruct, once again, by putting different parts together, the relationship we have broken off with the whole.

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Kamal answered, "I am sorry, but when I came here, instead of cutting the grass I began to look at it.

Lamps would be lit and prayers would be chanted.

Deep down, a violent man is an escapist from death.

Please show us the technique.

The mind will become even calmer.

and just as a flower blossoms when the sun rises, similarily the spring of bliss bursts forth looking at the void within.

mind has become empty.

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He has to lose everything that gives warmth to his being.

Who knows how many scriptures have already been lost, and how many get lost everyday.

" And Jesus says, "If a man snatches your coat, also give him your shirt immediately.

If you want to know a flower, dont think about it -- look at the flower.

We are going on slipping inside, there where life is.

One day Jesus was standing in the market surrounded by a crowd.

let go completely

after few minutes, Osho starts giving suggestions again.

" How many times have you heard this before too? How many times have you read it before? Or you may say, "The flower is very fresh" -- but this too, how many times have you heard or read it before? What good are thoughts? How will you be able to enter the being of that roseflower by thinking about it? Thinking can only lead you into whatsoever is in your memory about a rose.

The truth of the matter is that there is hardly any home where the father and the son meet each other lovingly.

Death is happening every moment; we are dying every day.

In fact, only the ego can die; only the ego has a death -- because it is false.

Thinking is nothing but reiterating a thought.

show the courage to die

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One who has fear of death shrinks within.

" A welcome is always warm; a cold welcome has no meaning.

So a solid wall of coldness had to be erected all around -- that would scare the wife, that would scare the son.

Your conveniences and inconveniences make no difference.

Look at it.

People began to make way for her.

leave your eyes relaxed and close the eyelids.

If people were to go on becoming happier in Russia, then in the next fifty years theism would revive there and the bells would begin to ring in Russian temples.

They said, "You never told us this before! We also wish to be victorious.

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Thats why the I insists, "Break away from the all.

The two things are totally opposite, although they look similar in meaning.

It is just like when we heat water.

It is hard to say how much the scriptures affect your belief system and how much your liver does! One cant be sure whether gurus or the liver affect it more! What goes on inside the body has a greater effect.

Get out of here! You will never understand what I am saying.

only a flame of knowing has remained inside

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And then, once again, the "I" says, "Relate with the all" -- such is the tortuous way of the "I".

In that case, it will not even remain a seed, let alone grow into a tree.

No scripture lasts forever, although of course it lasts a little longer.

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we have retreated back

One wants a wife, a husband, a son, a mother, a brother, a friend, a society, an organization, a nation.

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I said no one could ever defeat me, and you are saying you too want to be victorious.

Our separation from God has happened because of one reason alone: we are not liquid, we have become solid.

One who dies properly will take the right steps in his future life.

The East cared for something else.

the body will be seen lying at a distance

If the seed were to protect itself by saying, "I am scared.

One might feel afraid to go to bed, arguing, "It is such a joy to wake up in the morning, it is better not to fall asleep or else it will spoil the whole charm of waking up.

In the morning the body feels fresh and rejuvenated; it is filled with energy, ready to face another day of activity.

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" When Jesus heard him, he said in a loud voice, "If you are giving way to Jesus mother, then dont do it, because Jesus doesnt have a mother.

the breathing is calming down.

WHY DO WE BRING IN THE THOUGHT OF DEATH?

eveything has disappeared.

Look intently in that void

One who does not live rightly will not die rightly.

No, thought is never original.

Leave the thoughts also

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inside, look at this void.

Close your eyes

However, if a wave were to assert itself as a wave, it would be filled with ego, and then it would want to break itself away from the ocean.

For example, a wave rises in an ocean.

This journey begins with birth.

How will you escape from it? Where will you escape? Even running away from it, you are ultimately going to run into it.

The rising and the setting go together -- the setting, in fact, lies hidden in the rising.

Never think too much about convenience.

The ego is like ice, as hard as a rock.

How can two people who are going to die desire immortality together? A union of two such people only makes death twice as real and nothing else.

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for ten minutes just remain looking.

Actually, thinking is a tactful means of falsifying facts.

The colder it gets, the harder it becomes.

Thus it is happy in life, it is happy in death -- because it knows that "that which is" is never born nor does it ever die.

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The body has become lifeless

On the outside, death has happened.

Now, slowly take a few deep breaths.

Yet when a few waves gather together they feel more reassured -- some sort of organization is created; a crowd is created.

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What has the flower to do with what you are thinking? A flower is a fact.

If it contracts, becomes solid, then it can survive.

We are all waves risen above the ocean of consciousness.

your own body will be seen so far away

How amazing it is that a fluid like water can become hard like ice and rock.

The son is also afraid; he sneaks by his father.

" And how interesting it is, that breaking away from the whole makes you miserable.

We have managed our entire system of life in such a way that death should not become visible.

As long as there is something in between to bind the two, the disrupter is also present.

as if it is dead, as if the body has become completely lifeless.

When it rises, it is in a state of activity.

In fact, only those who have attained to love can speak such strong words; people weak in love cannot utter them.

Remember, the wave itself is dying, and the other waves nearby are dying too.

the body is relaxing

It still exists.

The thoughts are going on calming down

In fact, no one could pick a fight with me.

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Kabir grew even more worried.

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the body is relaxing

let go totally

we are knowing

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When I say "triumph over death," I mean that as soon as a person accepts death he laughs, because he comes to know there is no death.

One who wakes up right will sleep right.

So for the sake of the ego, onehas to give up love and cling to hatred.

Love is Dangerous

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You will find that atheism will increase in the former group and theism will increase in the latter group.

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A vision is something else.

Go on relaxing the body completely.

The feeling of I is the feeling of a man afraid of death.

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You heard something different.

let go

let go completely.

So when I say "Know death," recognize the facts -- I am not asking you to think.

Let the roseflower be on one side and you be on the other, and let there be no one between you -- nothing youve ever heard, nothing youve ever read, nothing youve ever known.

He knows it, he sees it, and he accepts it.

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Beliefs dont mean anything.

Only after we have scrutinized the person and become totally reassured do we ever fall in love.

Of course we can dye our white hair, but that does not prove death a lie -- it invariably comes.

The body is relaxing

" What I am saying is that our theism and our atheism, our beliefs -- all of them are the products of conveniences that suit our conditions.

He will say, "How can this be possible? What nonsense are you talking about? This is all wrong!"

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You will have to fall in love with it; you will have to look into its eyes.

We can run an experiment.

Eluding death is eluding life as well.

Even when they came to his door they hesitated to ring the bell, wondering whether they should go in or not.

" And Lao Tzu said further, "And no one has ever been able to insult me.

Somebody from the crowd shouted, "Make way, make room for Jesus mother.

And the fact is that both of you are going to die.

leave your eyes relaxed and close the eyelids

Then one comes to know that birth is there and so is death.

It may take seventy years for us to die completely, nevertheless this one hour will be a part of it.

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Only the bliss prevails all over, all around.

Warmth is the symbol of life, cold is the symbol of death.

mind is becoming empty

goes on falling

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This is what we call love.

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Mind has become a void

It does not mean that we are attempting to integrate the fragments; it means we have stopped breaking ourselves away from the whole.

Waves, in fact, unite with each other and create an organization mainly to save themselves from the ocean.

Only then, the unknown seated within the rose will begin to enter your being.

That which binds also breaks.

These are all conveniences.

Let go

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I say to you, therefore, that in the next fifty years there is a great possibility that Russia will become theistic and India will become even more atheistic.

He is quite rich, with a great deal of property.

Of course, it will shake you up while dying; but even before that, if this idea takes hold of your mind, it will shake you to your very roots.

And one who has not loved has never known anything.

It will have to die.

Kabir went over, shook him, and asked, "What are you doing here?" Kamal opened his eyes.

The very first step he takes will be as much to reach Calcutta as his last step.

Only a happy mind wishes to thank somebody, and who else should one thank? -- because a man can find no reasons for the presence of inner happiness, so he thanks the unknown; it must be because of it.

You will think according to your convenience; your convenience determines your thinking.

There was so much joy in being the grass, joy that, being Kamal, I never had before.

What we call samsara, the world, is the state of activity, and what we call moksha, liberation, is the state of rest.

the body is relaxing

I asked him, "How did this happen?"

People thought about it a good deal before they called on him.

But we are scared of death and so our whole life has become totally crippled.

There are laws under which water turns into ice, and there are also laws which cause the formation of the ego.

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And there is an enormous difference between living and thinking.

Why are you running away?" Who would look stupid, the one who sat on the man, or the man who kept laughing and whose laughter resounded throughout your life?

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the body has completely relaxed.

We have named the same science darshan.

Remember, an ocean can be without a wave but a wave cannot exist without the ocean.

One man is a communist.

Thats why we change our beliefs many times.

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Once we become fluid-like, the separation will no longer exist; but we will only become fluid-like when we agree to see and to live death, when we accept that death exists.

All our thoughts either foster our convenience or remove our inconvenience.

He shuts his eyes; he never lets death appear before him, face-to-face.

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She fears she wont wake up once she goes to sleep, so she keeps trying to stay up the whole night.

The servant trembled before him, his son trembled before him, his wife was scared to face him.

So convenience shapes our thinking; our thoughts are formed out of convenience.

This is like dying in parts, dying a bit every day.

If you talk to your servant gently, he also tries to behave like a boss.

There can never be an original thinker -- only seers are original.

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For ten minutes only go on looking within, do not do anything else, only go on looking.

Now, for ten minutes just remain awake within, remain conscious within.

He says, "The whole mess is because of that unknown one, because of God.

As soon as the wave comes to believe it is separate from the ocean, it begins to die, its death comes nearer.

Thats why scientists, painters, sculptors, writers and poets are not overly concerned with having sons.

The funny thing is that the other wants to become immortal by uniting with you, and you want to become immortal by uniting with the other.

Inside

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And just by looking at it you will find that what seemed like death from this end, as you enter into it a little, the same thing turns out to be life.

let go completely from outside

Everyone is seeking love: somebody wants to receive your love, somebody wants to give you love.

And when it falls back into the ocean, it is equally happy in its state of rest.

The urge to kill an enemy comes from our desire to inflict on him the ultimate defeat.

If the wave wants to survive as a wave, it cannot; it is bound to die.

Seeing leads you into love; seeing is the source of love.

They are not synonymous.

Question 2

When the head has no pain we follow one set of beliefs; with a headache these beliefs are replaced by another set.

To be a wave means to face extinction -- prolonging makes no difference.

Thats why we turn love into security.

Tapascharya means one is not concerned with conveniences; instead, one has to know whatever is, whichever way it is.

In fact, there is virtually no difference between what we call living, and dying.

Only a flame of knowing will go on burning in the void, that "I am knowing"

slowly take a few deep breaths

And thats the reason there is no relationship between husband and wife, between father and son, between mother and son.

If you become frightened of the walls that make up the outer limits of a house, and escape, how will you ever enter the inner dwelling? Death is the periphery and life is the temple at the center of it.

slowly, slowly you would have slipped into depths

move further back from them.

I dont say think about the future, I say watch what is already happening now.

With acceptance comes transformation.

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Be seated making a little space around yourself.

the body has remained just like a shell

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I say to you: look at death -- neither should you avoid it nor be afraid of it, nor run away from it.

We can put it this way: only the ego dies, not the soul.

He is afraid, he is frightened; thats why he is unable to see death at all, nor is he able to love it.

the thoughts are relaxing

When you wake up in the morning you feel happy, because only a part of your body changes in sleep -- but death, on the other hand, brings about a complete change.

Why should I disappear?" then the seed is bound to rot.

We have called it darshan while they have called it philosophy, and there is a fundamental difference between the two.

A seer penetrates inside an object, while a thinker hovers around it on the outside -- and therefore a thinker has no achievement of his own; only a seer enjoys achievement.

I was never kicked out from any place, because I always sat near the entrance where people remove their shoes.

we have remained only a watcher.

Question 1

How can a wave survive as a wave? It will die.

Now I will give some suggestions, and you feel them along with me.

Look intently into this void

The whole body becomes useless and the need arises to acquire a new body.

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the thoughts are going on calming down

I was very puzzled to see that inwardly he was very soft, but very hard on the outside.

The reason all of us, who are going to die, are so eager to love is that love is the obvious means to connect.

His mother, Mary, came to see him.

The mind will become even calmer

relax your body

Although it will come to its completion in the future, it is actually taking place every moment.

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Every day it approaches nearer -- whether you think about it or not, whether you escape from it or not.

The man who doesnt have a beautiful woman can very well say that women should also be socialized.

Otherwise, these facts eventually lead us nowhere but to death.

Let go of the body completely, let it fall if it wants to, dont worry about it.

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Death lies hidden in birth.

But the moment a wave strives to save itself from the ocean, difficulties arise -- it cuts itself off from the ocean and its death begins.

Sooner or later such questions will surely come up.

If I throw away one, both will be thrown away; if I save one, both will be saved.

" It has created nations; it has created Hindu-Mohammedan sects -- waves creating their own organizations.

Whatever it was before in the ocean, it is now still the same, but it is at rest.

Then his life has a liquidity that enables him to flow into others and allows others to flow into him.

you have moved further back

The breeze was not moving the grass, the breeze was moving me -- the cutter and that which was to be cut had both disappeared.

What does this mean? This means that by accepting the facts of life totally concerning insecurity, failure, defeat, and finally death, we conquer them all.

I would like to say one more thing that may not have occurred to you before.

Lao Tzu said, "The first secret is: no one has ever defeated me in my life.

A relationship does not mean we are joined with somebody, a relationship means that now nothing exists between you and the other person, there is no one in between -- not even to join you.

" And so I say that a religious man does not belong to any organization -- he neither holds to a family, nor does he own a friend, a father or a brother.

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A poor wave will melt a little sooner, while a rich wave will take a little longer -- what else? The sunrays will take a little longer to melt a big wave, while a smaller wave will melt sooner.

Nothing youve ever experienced should be in between.

Remember this: no fact can ever be known by thinking.

let go completely

Relationship happens where thought is no more and where darshan, seeing, has begun.

The breathing is calming down

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And just looking at it continuously, I dont know when, but I also became a blade of grass.

Then he accepts everything.

Kabir said, "But what have you been doing for so long? Its so late!"

Look within wakefully.

You recall how she quarreled when you were about to leave for the office in the morning -- and again the thought is present between you.

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The father says, "I will disappear, but it doesnt matter -- I will leave my son behind.

Killing others, he believes no one can kill him, because now he himself has the power to kill.

Let go

One who wants to escape from death will inevitably grab hold of some belief.

Every moment is filled with fear of death.

If he makes you lose one round, lose two instead.

The first condition in looking at a roseflower is that the person looking at it should not think.

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The body is lying down, almost dead, away

Now why turn into ice? Then it will accept being a wave as long as it has to be, and it will accept being the ocean as long as it has to be.

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One who will lose himself shall find, and one who will save himself shall be lost.

For eternity poems have been written about love becoming immortal.

What will your state be then? You would want to run away from there! What else could you do? People watching would laugh and say, "Go on, sit on him; sit comfortably.

The very idea that "I will die" sends chills up our spines.

Have you ever seen your wife, your son, with whom you have lived for so many years? Have you ever seen them? The things your wife did yesterday flash through your mind -- and a thought comes in between you and her.

He said, "She has been ill lately, and she feels she may die in her sleep, so she is afraid of falling asleep.

It says, "I have to survive.

Some of us have turned into ice -- most of us have.

Those who are lying down or have fallen down, take a deep breath slowly

She isnt recovering from her illness because she stays up all night, afraid she may not wake up alive.

For example, love gives warmth, hatred brings coldness.

In fact, the truth is that beliefs change with headaches.

No one should be between you two.

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Drop it completely, drop all your control

So the one who knows will warn you at the very first degree that the water will turn into steam -- although you never see water turning into steam anywhere.

You have come for that, havent you? So go ahead.

During this one hour we will be dying too.

do not keep even the least grip.

Their paintings will survive, their poetry will survive, their sculptures will survive; they dont care about having a son.

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It isnt possible to save one side of the coin and throw the other side on the street.

That which is, is; only forms keep changing.

Anyone in fear has to shrink inside, and whatever shrinks turns into a knot.

And the organization of the ocean is a totally different thing.

the thoughts have calmed down.

It was morning when he left, but when the sun was overhead and Kamal had not yet returned, Kabir became worried.

Man has always tried to forget about death, he has tried not to think about it.

drown in the depths and go on looking

And what is future? It is the sum total of all of our presents.

There is a vast difference between convenience and truth.

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keep watching the breath.

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There, the two streams disappear and merge into each other.

Even in the biggest defeats, you still survive; although defeated, you continue to exist.

as if a fountain of bliss opens up and bliss abounds all over.

Then, for whatever time it has, it dances in the sky, rejoices under the rays of the sun, is happy.

One who does not die in a right manner will not live rightly.

Hence, it is meaningless to try to save yourself from death, or to postpone it by saying that death is in the future.

Be seated with a little distance from each other.

But even when its at ninety-nine degrees the water does not turn into steam; that will only happen when it reaches one hundred.

If you remain courteous and loving to your wife, the expenditures shoot up.

Leave it relaxed

Do not prevent it

goes on dying.

he, the miserable, sick individual.

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If this wave tries to relate with other waves, it will get into trouble.

In that acceptance the wave becomes the ocean.

Actually, they have found a son that will last even longer than yours, because even when your son has disappeared, the writers book will still remain.

This does not mean, however, that he is carefree; it simply means he has found a long-lasting wave; he stops worrying about smaller waves.

Thats why they have named their science of thinking philosophy.

I simply said no one could defeat me, while you are talking about becoming victorious.

Darshan, seeing, can be original.

Hence it creates an organization, it creates a chain.

Thats why we invented marriages -- first we marry, first we take all the necessary measures, then we fall in love -- because love is dangerous.

everthing elso has become a void

The more we succeed in breaking the others ego, the stronger ours becomes.

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The body has relaxed

Soon it was evening and the sun was about to set, so finally, accompanied by a few of his devotees, Kabir set out in search of Kamal.

We shrink with fear of death.

You believe in its existence only as long as you have not known it.

the thoughts are going on relaxing.

Jesus has said, "The one who will save himself will perish; and the one who will efface himself -- no one can ever destroy him.

settle in the seeing.

Who is my mother?" So Mary stood there in shock.

If a fear of falling asleep were to overtake somebody, it would make life difficult.

When they reached the forest they found Kamal standing in the middle of the thick grass, his eyes closed, swaying like a blade of grass in the breeze.

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Remember, as a wave it is not apart from the ocean, it is one with the ocean.

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the thoughts are relaxing.

The day nothing exists to bind, when only two remain,when nothing remains in between, that day what actually remains is only one; then there are not two.

When it rises in the morning, death departs; everything becomes warm and hot.

Retreat back even from the breathing, call your energy back from there too.

At the first degree the water warms up, but it hasnt turned into steam yet.

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And one who ignores death also ignores life.

There is no way to defeat a defeated man.

The death of the seed becomes life for the tree.

How can this be possible? With the one I keep, the other side will automatically be saved.

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" What does this mean?

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How many fathers have done this?

There is a joy in getting up in the morning, but isnt it equally joyful to sleep at night? If a few madmen were to start convincing people not to sleep at night, then getting up in the morning would also stop, because the man who wouldnt sleep wouldnt be able to wake up in the morning either.

mind has become empty

And with that, this body goes through a complete change.

This needs to be understood a little.

Thats why I say death will have to be lived, it will have to be known, it will have to be seen.

It is not that death is something which will happen in the future, so why think about it now? This too is a misapprehension.

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Life and death are both aspects of the same phenomenon.

Then it doesnt want to become frozen ice.

In a way, sleeping is like dying every day.

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the body is relaxing

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Only one who is afraid of death has ego, because ego means a constricted personality, a solid knot.

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Remember, never believe that what seems pleasing to you is necessarily true, because what feels pleasing does not depend on what is true, it depends on what you think of as convenient.

And one who wants to save himself from death can never be nonviolent.

Lao Tzu answered, "You made a mistake.

ask the life to retreat within, and leave the body relaxed.

The more a person is afraid, the more he worries about his security, the more solid he becomes.

A FRIEND HAS ASKED: WHY SHOULD WE THINK OF DEATH AT ALL? WE HAVE LIFE, LET US LIVE IT.

The whole of life would come to a halt.

Let go completely

He will go on freezing, because that fear that he may die, that he may disappear, will make him contract -- and his ego will remain, growing harder, stronger.

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And when the ego disappears only life remains.

When they are an integral part of the ocean, all waves exist in peace and rest.

I was never defeated because I never wished for victory.

If you think of winning, you will lose.

Thinking about death, what will you do?

And if the initial step cant bring him to Calcutta, the last step cannot either.

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Even underneath the dyed color the hair is still white.

But we are very scared of death, although it is nothing more than a deep sleep.

Then you will know the flower from its interiority.

We dive within ourselves at night and come out refreshed in the morning.

So one kind of love is the one where we attempt to rebuild our lost relationship with the whole by adding parts.

Addressing the crowd, Jesus said, "As long as you have a mother, a father, a brother, you wont be able to come close to me.

goes on falling.

Two lovers long so much for their love to become immortal -- they sing songs day and night.

Only the outer sheath is formed and unformed.

Now, once again, you can sing new songs, something you couldnt do the previous evening.

He has asked the right thing.

goes on dying

So the friend asks: "Why should we think about death? Why not forget it? Why not just live?" I would like to say to him that, forgetting death, no one has ever lived, nor can anyone ever live.

Let the first fifty live in misery and let the other fifty live happy lives.

the breathing is calming down, is calming down.

And the man who hasnt been able to love death yet, how will he ever love life? -- because death is a very superficial event and life is a far deeper phenomenon.

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Similarly, someone who wishes to die will also grab on to some belief.

Once we have seen and recognized that death exists, why should there be any fear? When death is surely there, when the wave knows for certain she is bound to disappear; if the wave has found out that birth itself contains death, if the wave has come to know that its disintegration began the very moment it was created, the matter is finished.

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Actually, it gives us pleasure to destroy somebodys ego because doing so strengthens our own.

They are the indications that death has started approaching, that it is sure to come.

LET US LIVE IN THE PRESENT.

In the dictionary, in the world of language, it has one meaning -- that a person who has not faced defeat is victorious.

a great light of bliss will fill that very void.

Slowly take a few deep breaths

As soon as you come to know it a transformation happens in your life -- because death is not.

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Love is fluid, a man might find his way into anyone.

The fundamental reason for violence is that man kills others to forget about his own death.

We are all filled with desire to freeze, and so we employ many kinds of means to see how we can become frozen, solidified.

Everything will be lost.

By the time we are seventy or eighty, the body is worn out.

The day property is distributed, the question of sharing women is bound to arise.

just die.

There are people on this earth who propound, "Today property, tomorrow women.

Meditation means death.

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"Please tell us its secret also, because we do not like to be insulted either," a disciple said.

Death is the final defeat, and we all want to run away from it.

It is not that after seventy years one dies all of a sudden; death never occurs instantaneously.

And the fact of the matter is that all these organizations are going to disappear -- the ocean below is the only organization.

leave the breathing relaxed

Soon it was evening, and here I was, completely oblivious that I am Kamal who has come here to cut grass.

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Death is the ultimate defeat; after that there is no possibility for the enemy to win, ever.

So pull the same life deep within

Because of this fear we have created a life, a society, a family which lives the least but fears death the most.

A complex is created inside the person.

Only he who declares, "I accept death, for death is one of the facts of life -- it is a reality," can be a nonviolent person.

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When you go to bed at night, tired and weary, your body is in one state, and when you wake up in the morning it is in a different state.

But since we continue to remain egos, a great difficulty is created.

Now the division of property would mean dividing his car, dividing his bungalow.

the consciousness has slipped withinwards

Then you were tired, broken, worn out.

You have always thought, you have never seen.

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One who sleeps right will wake up right.

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The father is afraid, and he has surrounded himself with a solid wall.

Thinking is never original -- although we ordinarily say that such-and-such a persons thoughts are highly original.

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am seeing

This friend has asked, "Why think of death?" I dont say to think.

" What this means is: dont even give him the trouble of turning your other cheek -- you do it for him.

For example, you go out to defeat a man, and before you knock him down he lays himself down on the ground; and before you sit on him he invites you and lets you sit on him.

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People would begin to thank God.

The son goes to the father when he needs money, the father goes to the son when he wants to give him a sermon; otherwise the two dont meet, the meeting never happens.

Its good you came, because I didnt know what was happening.

But neither of them is eager, anxious to know death.

feel it, the body is relaxing

Lao Tzu said, "No one could defeat me because I always remained defeated.

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the body is relaxing

This is love.

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He is also striving for the same degree of immortality.

" Hence I say to you: enter into death willingly so that you may reach life.

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" When it disappears as a wave, it still exists -- in a state of rest.

Then all worry over its disappearance is gone, because then the wave knows it existed before its extinction and it will continue to exist even after it has vanished -- not as the I, but as the boundless ocean.

your own breathing will seem to be so far away.

One can never run away from a fact.

There is one more interesting thing that needs to be understood.

An old lady was brought to me by her son.

31 October 1969 am in Meditation Camp at Dwarka, Gujarat, India

So when I say death has to be known, I mean we will have to love death as well.

Either he does not exist, or he has gone mad.

Then he lives this truth.

let go

Thinking means to repeat, in the mind, what we already know.

as if one goes on falling in a deep well

move back from them too

But they are more afraid of life than of death.

We are a frightened people; we want to make everything secure first.

That means, first we make sure there is no cause for danger from the person, then we fall in love.

Remember, a relationship does not mean there is a third factor binding the two.

Thats why we say "a warm welcome.

No matter what a man may have set out to know, he has only known it through love.

How can you remain connected?" So the "I" snaps itself away; but then it gets into trouble -- because, as soon as the "I" separates from the all, it becomes miserable; its end approaches.

Belonging to it does not mean the wave joins itself with the ocean; rather, it means the wave knows that "I am not at all different from the ocean.

the body has relaxed

The ocean, however, can exist without a wave.

But we are holding on to it.

Look

But in death even you are annihilated as well.

One who turned away from the very first step, how will he ever reach the deep waters of the well?

Lao Tzu went on to say, "But you are asking something else.

Inside

On its own a wave feels more frightened that it may disappear, that it may really disappear.

let go of the wave, be one with the ocean.

When the stomach is upset one feels like becoming an atheist, and when the stomach is okay one feels like believing in God! How can a man possibly believe that there is a God when he has a headache? If God exists and so does the headache, how can you connect the two?

Where I stood, no one ever came to throw me out.

I am not asking you to think about death, because such thinking will mislead you.

slowly, slowly

Darshan means to see; darshan does not mean thinking.

No one ever wanted to be in that spot.

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It is not a sudden event; it is a growth that begins with birth.

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It is like a restless wave which crashes against the wind and wrestles with it, and then it falls back into the ocean and disappears.

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The others broken ego becomes the strength of our own.

At sunset, the sun reaches exactly where it was at sunrise -- but at sunrise it is in the east, whereas at sunset it is in the west.

They are afraid of death too.

A thought is always about convenience.

You will hear him say, "Communism, etcetera -- its all nonsense!" What happened to this man? What was convenient to him shaped his thinking.

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The sun begins to set the moment it rises.

" If a seed wishes to save itself, it will rot -- what else? And if a seed annihilates itself in the earth, disappears, it will become a tree.

If I ask you to think about this roseflower, what will you think? You will simply reiterate what you already know about a rose.

The thoughgts are also dropping

This sort of acceptance feels comfortable, thats all.

The breath will appear to be far away.

Life seems more painful to them than death; hence they want to finish it.

" By killing others we try to be free of our own death, we want to confirm our independence.

Beauty was always around -- the flowers bloomed and withered away.

let go

the breathing is going on calming down

All mans efforts and plans towards falsifying death seem to be succeeding, but they never are successful -- because death is there.

the breathing is calming sown

Of course, he may say the water is heating up, but where is it turning into steam? We can delude ourselves up to the ninety-ninth degree that the water is still not turning into steam, but at the hundredth degree it is bound to become steam.

You want me to tell you the technique of winning.

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Go on feeling

the breathing is calming down

But still, in that sort of survival the wave is no more and the ice remains -- ice which is a wave, closed, broken away from the ocean.

Once you get the idea that "I am," then how can you be with the rest of the all? If you choose to be with the all, then the I is lost.

the breathing is calming down.

You cannot conceive of a wave without the ocean -- the ocean will be present in the wave.

But the man who is afraid of death, who is eluding it -- how can he love death, how can he have its darshan, how can he ever see death? When death appears before him, he turns his back on it.

Let her come.

Thats why the sun is the symbol of life, the sun is the symbol of warmth.

Thinking will lead you nowhere.

you have moved further back.

It is dangerous to form a relationship, because if you form a relationship with somebody then sooner or later he starts asking for money.

Please do something and save her from this fear; otherwise I am in great trouble.

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Mind is becoming empty

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But this we will come to see only when we have seen death, when we have had the vision of death, when we have encountered death face-to-face -- never before.

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And one who fears death can never live -- both things cannot exist together.

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